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>> i have a real problem, when you talk about raising the poverty level, that's people making $94,000 a year. they're not poor. that's taking resources from the poor. the expansion -- >> not on the medicaid issue. that's a math trigger. that's not the medicaid expansion. >> excuse me? >> it's not the medicaid expansion. >> oh, my brother, yes, it is, you need to look at your facts. take 133% of the poverty level, you get $94,000 a year, now, i don't know what you consider rich, but that is an awful lot of money. i consider the poor, they do deserve a safety net, they do deserve health. and rig...

>> i have a real problem, when you talk about raising the poverty level, that's people making $94,000 a year. they're not poor. that's taking resources from the poor. the expansion -- >> not on the medicaid issue. that's a math trigger. that's not the medicaid expansion. >> excuse me? >> it's not the medicaid expansion. >> oh, my brother, yes, it is, you need to look at your facts. take 133% of the poverty level, you get $94,000 a year, now, i don't know what you consider rich, but that is an awful lot of money, i consider the poor, they do deserve a safety net, they do deserve health. and rig...