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Alternative, which, of course, we know that alternative is a liar and a disaster. >> but, matt, hold on a second here. you, obviously, share those thoughts with him. this is conventional wisdom that you're sharing. what are you going to say to him today about what your fellow republican politicians in ohio are begging him to do? >> well, this isn't about begging anyone. i don't know that anyone is begging him to do it. i think what i'm doing is trying to give him the best advice for him. i'm not out there trying to defend paul ryan. he hasn't asked me to and he doesn't need me to. i'm trying t...

Hillary clinton. matt borgis is the chairman of the ohio republican party. he joins us now, good morning, chairman. >> good morning. >> on monday you had a conversation with donald trump in which you basically said this is not a winning strategy. do not fight with members of the gop. focus, instead, on hillary clinton. are you filing that under message not received? >> not quite yet. i'm going to have another conversation with him today and he needs to know that elections aren't about getting the same people to like you more. elections are about getting more people to like you. and we are in t...