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Their physical health and 11 million had suicide thoughts because of politics. back with matt dowed and mara gay, you both inspired me and that's why i'm here and mara, you sharing your fight with covid at the very beginning, the first terrifying wave, i have felt like and i have endeavored here to sort of muddle through the hard things together but it feels like just the what of it, right, just the politics are too much for so many people. what do you think about this? >> you know, i mean as you said, nicole, on a personal note, having gotten sick from a preventable disease that i believe the...

And so, it's really hard to separate the personal from the political at this point. and i think we're kidding ourselves if it's not personal at this point. so the best that we can do is take good care of ourselves so that we can sort of stay in the fight and so you got to put your own mask on first, right, but you never want to get so burned out that you're not able to keep pushing forward. >> matt dowed, you're a seeker of peace through painful experiences, and i wonder what your thoughts are. >> well, as i was listening and you talked about this and you and i have talked about this before, i...