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The central progressive idea is that the people should -- the people should be able to use our government to accomplish together what we can't do alone. like for example building storm shelters or for that matter schools to put them in. why is that central idea such a hard sell in oklahoma? why at least have the republicans in oklahoma been so successful selling against that idea? >> and it's a difference between the officials inside the capitol building and those citizens outside. they had to lie and mislead and confuse the voters in oklahoma to throw in that doubt. we had so many people that...

That discussion. and then attorney general scott pruitt challenged our ballot title. we saw republican official after official fight this and this was simply to put this issue on the ballot to let the voters decide. >> you could argue that acentral processive idea may be the central progressive idea is that the people should -- the people should be able to use our government to accomplish together what we can't do alone. like for example building storm shelters or for that matter schools to put them in. why is that central idea such a hard sell in oklahoma? why at least have the republicans in...