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That's because no international business wants to get in the crosshairs of u.s. sanctions. so that will likely bring iran to its knees again. it feels like 2011 all over again. >> you were quoted in "the new york times" saying in some ways president trump is on a collision course with himself. he says he's in favor of maximum pressure and he's against military confrontation when it comes to iran but both of those things can't be true because one of those things can lead to the other. so what should he do now? >> well, first i think we're missing the broader context here. what happened yesterda...

Continued escalation, one a lot any. continued escalation until the administration gets under max malist objectives, which we can talk about. or they say no escalation in him. iran is not a threat. just like they did with new york. the reality doesn't change because iran is in a position to have a nuclear escalation. >> in the "new york times" this morning, great peter baker piece, president trump is on a collision course with himself. he says he's in favor of maximum pressure and against military confrontation on iran. but both of those things cannot be true because one of the things leads to...

You can't come after us. we're going to ratchet this up a little bit. >> all right, so those are the military basic pieces going on here. obviously you weigh in on everything else as you want. but, aaron, let me bring you in. what do you think iran wants by doing what it just did? >> you know, i think the supreme leader wants no peace, no negotiations on one hand, and no major military confrontation on the other. i think in 2020, '21 he'd like to see a new president here. and a new president in iran. and elections are in 2020 and i think he'd like to see president rouhani associated with the j...

Major military confrontation on the other. i think in 2020, '21 he'd like to see a new president here. and elections are in 2020 and i think he'd like to see president rouhani associated with the jcpoa agreement leave, replaced by someone much more manageable and flexible to the supreme leader's point of view. in the meantime i think the iranians are trying to remind the president that the campaign of maximum pressure can be reciprocal. it strikes me, chris, this campaign is working all too well. we have really crushed -- the administration has crushed the iranian economy reducing, cutting in ...

Iranian context. our hardliners are empowering their hardliners and vice-versa. and think that's what you've seen play out in recent days. let's start with john bolton and mike pompeo the secretary of state and national security adviser who last year were -- helped to orchestrate the pullout of the united states from the iran deal. they promised that this campaign of maximum pressure that would lead to this so-called better deal. and i think in some ways the results speak for themselves. the united states not iran is now more isolated. iran is now more emboldened. it is far from coward. iran's...