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Behavior is the best indicator of future behavior. only two weeks ago he tried to kill himself and he wasn't on suicide watch. something was greatly wrong in those protocols at the mcc. >> mark: let me just ask you something, then, about that profiling side of you, because he had come he might have been suicidal, but he's a wealthy billionaire with all these connections with politicians, with the royal family. wouldn't the natural position of a guy in his situation be to say "okay, if i'm going down, everybody else is going down to too"? in other words, it's not an automatically suicidal situa...

Maybe epstein was willing to give some people up. but certainly people who were accused of things. this case is not going away. there are still plenty of victims out there. there are plenty of women now who were young girls when this all happened. so you can't rule out that this is a homicide. all indications are suicide, but as any investigator knows, you treat any suspicious death has a homicide intel you can consider otherwise. >> mark: thanks for that, jim. judith miller is a contributing editor at the journal. she's also an ex-jailbird. she says a lot happened to epstein. it is unfathomab...