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Be. now there is going to be. it is a weird way to set policy, especially economic policy. >> it is not just weird. it is dysfunctional. this is a broken white house in a managerial sense. chaotic processes. last week, the president was boarding out his decision, at that point, even though the staff wasn't sure that he was going to announce anything at all. that's why, i think, we can't be certain now that even if people within the white house believe there's going to be an announcement at 3:30, that there will be one. this is a president who acts on impulse. he doesn't always consult staff. i...

It. there is no official u.s. account. there can't be because there wasn't another u.s. official present. it's possible the president read it out to one of his officials, rex tiller son, maybe h.r. mcmaster who was on the trip. the white house is characterizing it as a brief private conversation. but they have no real way of reading something like that out. they knew going into this meeting -- the formal meeting with president putin that all the atmosphere surrounding about possible collusion made it difficult to come out of that meeting with anything other than a public relations nightmare. >...

Present. it's possible the president read it out to one of his officials, rex tiller son, maybe h.r. mcmaster who was on the trip. the white house is characterizing it as a brief private conversation. but they have no real way of reading something like that out. they knew going into this meeting -- the formal meeting with president putin that all the atmosphere surrounding about possible collusion made it difficult to come out of that meeting with anything other than a public relations nightmare. >> did the staff add milt to you they don't know because of the reasons you state? >> they do. the...