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Of the interview public confidence has been hurt. so how does the public know that boeing has done enough to actually fix this for good when it is this same agency certifying that this time around? again, it's just going to be boeing and the faa saying we are good to go. >> well, that's a really good point, poppy, because it's omitted from the interview. anything to do with what's going to happen tomorrw that's different than what happened yesterday. >> right. >> that is crucial. that's the point that's being missed right now. yeah, sure, i believe that the 737 max 8 mcas system is working pro...

We are getting a more detailed look at what happened in november when american airline pilots met with boeing, were shocked to learn this mcas system was on board that boeing didn't tell them about. shocked and furious to learn they were the backup and they told boeing how to fix it, set up the warnings, change the software and take the planes out of commission until it was done. boeing said, the plane is safe. we know what happened next. a second crash. dennis tazier with the pilots association was in the meeting. he's a 737 max pilot. listen to this. >> the american airlines pilots laid out ...

Boeing marketed the 737 max 8 airplanes as being similar to previous versions of the jet, despite the addition of a stability system. >> that system appears to be at the center of investigations into the deadly lion air and ethiopian crashes. pilots at two american carriers say that when they switched to the max 737, they were given a short self administered online course, but it didn't mention the new system. the federal aviation administration says that pilots were trained to hand him issues with the system even if it wasn't named. in the meantime, indonesian airline canceled almost $5 billi...

Strong criticism for not training the pilots in the simulator. there is what pilots use to train. it's a full motion simulator. and the airline is being criticized for not using the simulator to train pilots about the new mcas system. as the chief executive told me, the first time they knew about mcas was after the lion air crash, the simulator they've got for the aircraft doesn't replicate the fault andest i don't want -- and ethiopian airlines has done everything required by authorities. >> this is very unfair criticism, baseless, and based on false information and we are given response, a v...

Report, what does this tell you, not just about the lion air crash, but potentially about the ethiopia air crash and about some of the other complaints that we've heard from pilots that have now come to light after both of these crashes? >> it does underscore the pilot's concern that they were not trained properly on this new mcas system. the idea that it took a third person uninvolved with the crisis taking place to diagnose it is stunning and these guys were in a dire situation, but they were able to solve it once they figured out what was wrong, and apparently, the solution was buried in th...