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Going to be a lot lower than that of actual cross-over votes or votes that could be considered contestable. >> e.j. dionne, we were listening to that and i for one did not hear any reference to a number large enough to affect the outcome of this election. >> right, and i think it's going to be hard for him to get there. because the rule is that if you're a democrat you can vote in the republican primary. the only way you can't vote in the republican runoff in mississippi is if you cast a ballot in the democratic primary the first time around. and what we know as a fact is that turnout went up ...

But really underlying this is a mcdaniel theory that if he won only the republican vote, he should have won the primary. and he's just never wanted to come to terms with the fact that it was an open primary. and obviously it doesn't do great things for the image of the republican party that what they are objecting to for the most part are african-americans who crossed in to the republican primary. >> and sam, what are the democrats in mississippi making of this situation? what opportunities have they found in it, if any? >> well, ricky cull, who's the state party chair, is encouraging mcdaniel...