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Isn't maybe returning to this idea now as the investigation intensifies, returning to the idea of getting rid of mueller and this isn't somebody leaking to -- >> if he did that, really. >> you think people are concerned possibly that he might try to fire him? >> leaks happen often for a reason. sometimes it's justnes interpersonal battles but sometimes there are other bigger reasons. i wonder about that. this story paints mcgahn in a positive light and makes it much more difficult for the president to make a move on mueller right now. >> mcgahn bannon and priebus all share the same lawyer. i t...

Spokes person. >> did you see anthony scaramucci says this has steve bannon's hands written all over it. >> it was very clear he has scores to settle and never misses an opportunity to go after steve bannon no matter the issue. he's made himself a convenient target. could bannon be one of the four people that perhaps talked to maggie? very much so, sure. >> does that really matter? >> no, of course it doesn't matter. it's true. >> i think it may matter in one respect. i look at don mcgahn and wonder, the story puts him in a very positive light. why now is the story coming out. we learned recen...

President when he's having a fantastic trip in davos, meeting with world leaders. >> ryan, how do you think the news tonight will reverberate in trump world? that won't be the only fingerpointing going on, will it? >> i'm sure like anthony i'm sure there will be a lot of people in the white house trying to figure out who leaked this. if i remember correctly, the times had four sources and other news organizations have now confirmed this as well. scaramucci has had a long running feud with steve bannon so -- and steve is a sort of easy scapegoat, he's unhappy how he was treated there but just t...