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So run from the bottom up that that's really where we need to work. and i live in silicon valley. there's also a kind of reckoning among the social media giants about the role that russia might have played there. >> of course. >> so, i think a lot is going on around this issue. we just need to make sure it is full-out effort. >> why can't the president say that? >> well, the president obviously is in a kind of unusual situation here. >> what do you think is unusual about it? >> i think that there may be a sense that when somebody says the russians meddled in the election, it's calling into que...

This administration has had a for sale sign outside the white house that made it a little more inviting, if you will. however, i think the bigger issue in that story and this ties back to mcmaster issue, mcmaster had to receive intelligence reports about jared kushner's unilateral foreign policy. and how do you have an intelligence committee reporting on one individual to the national security advisor and the national security advisor has to call him and say, excuse me, we're conducting foreign policy in an integrated way here, what are you doing? >> i'll say a couple things about this. one is...

Guy and the president is just treating him like a punching bag which is truly extraordinary. >> so, there are two lines i want to ask you about. it sounds like state of mind is more than just a turn of phrase in that article. what is the importance of understanding donald trump's state of mind when it came to his desire to fire sessions? >> well, if he had a corrupt state of mind, if he was doing it basically to protect himself from an investigation, that does go to the obstruction of justice issue. but more broadly, nicolle, this is an epigraph of our constitutional democracy. the president o...