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To go against some of his owned advisers and granted me clemency, and that's what we need in a president. a president who will look at a situation and make a decision that he believes is not only right for an individual, but right for this country. abby: alice, are you a changed woman? you've spent over 20 years in prison. talk to us about the woman that you were before all this happened and who you are now. >> the woman before, the woman who i was before, i look -- i allowed myself to get caught up and make decisions out of desperation without thinking, without looking at the consequences. no...

We mentioned at the top of the hour that a woman on death row first to be executed in 70 years. she's been denied clemency. what's also making news the fact that we have learned that a letter essentially from the pope begging this georgia parole board to grant her cle mmency a justice and mercy. to rosa flores, who has been covering the pope for us as he's just returned home to rome from the united states. i'm just wondering. i'm sure it's too early to get reaction from the vatican, but how rare is it for a pope to intervene in a situation such as this? >> you know, we have heard pope francis ...

Rehabilitation of those convicted of crimes. pope francis went on to say that, yes, people are punished for certain crimes, but you have to give people hope. there has to be a rehabilitation part of that process. here's the back story. this this this woman was convicted of murder in 1997 for killing her husband inclusion with her lover. her advocates saying she has changed. she's rehabilitated her life. she's been an example for other women in prison and calling for her life to be saved. now pope francis is not the only one asking for clemency here. more than 90,000 people have signed a petiti...

Death penalty. i think the interesti ining thi as you say, is that pope francis was just in the united states and was widely hailed by political authorities up and down the country. this is the first test as to whether those people cheering the pope's presence are going to be willing to act on his concrete agenda. >> martin, i'm looking at my clock, three hours, that's how long -- three hours ago is when they started meeting this morning. what's the word as far as potential clemency is concerned? >> we don't really know. we know that some family members and apparently her children have spoken ...

Lot about what hope means. and we look to the a friend of her who wrote about hope as living to the promises of god, the promises of restoration and reconciliation. those are ultimate promises that we believe are meant to be made real here on earth. and we knew we didn't have certainties either way. we were just living in the moment. and hoping for life and for clemency. >> i want to ask you about her children who i know were at the prison yesterday as well. i think they are an important part of the story. as we have learned about this letter ultimately from his holiness himself, from the pope...