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Devoted to his family, that's for sure. you know, i'll tell you, i love those moments where the chips were down, where the chips were down either personally or professionally. i could tell you the story in 2008 just before the new hampshire primary in december he was in sixth place. we held a fundraiser for him in arizona. only his oldest friends showed up. we raised $20,000, and it was his biggest fundraiser three and a half weeks before the new hampshire primary. he said, johnny, do you have anybody that could come to new hampshire? because we've had to let staff go, we are -- [laughter] run...

That he was a amazingly interested in the people around him. so i always felt from the day i met him -- i was introduced to him true congressman tom ridge who i had worked for in pennsylvania -- and from the day i met him, he called me johnny. we were friends. i found that he was really open, caring, hard working and an intentional listener. so when you had something to say that was important, he was there to listen and to care about what you had to say. >> john, i'm the wife of a politician, the wife of a congressman, so i know exactly what you're talking about the, that the staff often wants...

When you're in a foreign country, your interpreter is your lifeline, especially a soldier in enemy territory. one interpreter grew so valuable to the navy s.e.a.l. his became a brother in arms saving countless american lives and risking his own as one of the most wanted men in iraq. known as johnie walker. now in america telling his story in a book called "code name:johnie walker". johnny, we'll call you, that's the name that we love. why did you start helping the americans? >> you know, the beginning of 2003 i work with military police, and at that time it's kind of like big, huge deal, if yo...

All of the john wayne movies. so it's like my dream. >> wow. you know, johnny, the debate in america around iraq to oversimplify it i think at times similar to the debate within iraq, which is ultimately was this intervention good for the people of iraq? was it good? and i ask you, as you have a unique perspective, as an iraqi-born individual, worked with the u.s. army, how did you feel about that? obviously you did this work that you thought was right. how did you feel, though, being on the ground watching what we all know at times incredibly difficult periods for the citizens of that country...

Compare to chris kyle story. he's my hero. bless him. i love him. >> indeed, chris is an american hero. jim, what was the hardest part of the book to write? >> i think that once i got to know johnny, it wasn't hard at all. but because of the language barrier, we -- i wouldn't say it was hard. we had to spend a lot of time together. sometimes his family got a little tired of me hanging around and taking him up. but it was always my pleasure. hopefully they'll forgive me now. >> they love you. >> johnny, jim, thank you so much for everything you've done. next, the new hbo doc examines darwinism ...