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We changed our focus from adult literacy which is what we originally did, to family literacy, the mother and child are together, to make such a difference and now that jeb and dario are hitting the foundation, sort of delicately pushed me out of. what is the greatest satisfaction for you personally? the fact we are in 50 states and we were in one when we started, there were no programs before and now we are in 50 states. we have given away $60 million. which of the stages has been mom, grandma, what is really satisfying? all of them. i could play golf with george w and throw him off the golf course for profanity. we are very very close, george ....