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Taking it seriously, staring at the frescos. >> who could not? a kid looking around the sistine chapel, boy. >> the most secret process in the world. you can tell us what it's like. >> very intense, very emotional draining. and this is one of the most important things i ever have to do to vote for the new successor. so there is a lot of intensity. but yet there is also, chris, balancing that, a remarkable -- i don't know how to explain this. you know me. i'm a pretty hard-boiled guy. people wouldn't call me pius. i hope i'm holy, but i don't think people would call me devotional or pius. there...

Oath. don't worry about it, it was on the house. >> no. you look like he were taking it seriously. staring up at the frescos. >> who could not? looking around in the sistine chapel. boy. >> the best known secret process in the world. in there as a cardinal, voting on a man who will be the head, the father. what is it like? >> i can tell you what it's like. first of all, it's not all fun and games. very intense and emotionally draining, you think about it night and day. this is one of the most important things i ever have to do, to vote for the new successor, so there is a lot of intensity. but...