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What was interesting to me this morning was that now the white house is pretending that there is an agreed and settled upon version of the wall with the slats and that that is acceptable to them. whether or not you call it a fence or a wall or a barrier, the white house seems to think that everyone agrees on the design of this and that is a structure that has slats that looks more slat like than wall like, but craig, we're clearly going to bring out some archaeologists and do a history of walls. you go to mongolia, i'll go to beijing, meet me halfway. >> sign me up for that assignment. mike, o...

Long time tried to rebrand for barbie, feminists and other women you speak of, why they decided this is the route to do that. seems to me si, "sports illustrated" are men. are they the ones buying barbie? >> i think there's something at work here which is the buzz factor. it is crowded out there. it is noisy out there. mattel, the sales of barbie has gone down, about 13% last quarter, steadily going down since 2012. it appears this might be a move by the company to generate buzz, some interest, some controversy, right? look, we're talking about it right now, of course. my sense is that -- matt...