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I remember sitting in a gloomy time square hotel room with senator mccain and mark salter in august of 2007. so exactly 12 years ago. and basically -- john mccain couldn't -- as joe said, he could barely get arrested. because he had put all of his chips on the fact that he thought the surge in iraq was an essential policy decision and he been very critical of george w. bush on the the other parts of that policy. but he called it as he saw it. and he said, if the surge works, people will give me a second look in this race and we'll go out and test our medal -- we'll test our metal. as if he had...

So exactly 12 years ago. and basically -- john mccain couldn't -- as joe said, he could barely get arrested. because he had put all of his chips on the fact that he thought the surge in iraq was an essential policy decision and he been very critical of george w. bush on the the other parts of that policy. but he called it as he saw it. and he said, if the surge works, people will give me a second look in this race and we'll go out and test our medal -- we'll test our metal. as if he had something to prove as to his medal. but one of the reasons you're seeing this level of emotion is people app...

Senator mccain and mark salter in august of 2007. so exactly 12 years ago. and basically -- john mccain couldn't -- as joe said, he could barely get arrested. because he had put all of his chips on the fact that he thought the surge in iraq was an essential policy decision and he been very critical of george w. bush on the the other parts of that policy. but he called it as he saw it. and he said, if the surge works, people will give me a second look in this race and we'll go out and test our medal -- we'll test our metal. as if he had something to prove as to his medal. but one of the reasons...

Country strong and great by applying the principals that always made us great. thank you. >> thank you, governor romney. next, governor rick perry of texas. governor perry? >> mike, thank you. and boy, it has been a wild and wooly ride in this primary. i suspect that will stay the same. i hope everyone will give me a second look and look at my plan that cuts taxes and balances the budget and gets america working again. and it overhauls washington. in one of the ways it does that, we will put a part-time congress in place. think about that. send it back to their own districts to have a real job...

Thank you. >> thank you, governor romney. next, governor rick perry of texas. governor perry? >> mike, thank you. and boy, it has been a wild and wooly ride in this primary. i suspect that will stay the same. i hope everyone will give me a second look and look at my plan that cuts taxes and balances the budget and gets america working again. and it overhauls washington. in one of the ways it does that, we will put a part-time congress in place. think about that. send it back to their own districts to have a real job working in their home districts. that's the way you make a difference. i have ...