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Chain cpi, by the way? >> i can go home and defend entitlement reform as long as -- which is absolutely essential, as long as we're not first doing that before we protect the middle class. so we've got to make sure that we're not slashing and taking a meat ax. >> you can defend this in south florida. >> i can defend entitlement. well, we absolutely have to add solvency to medicare, medicaid and social security. we've shown through the president's plan that you can add hundreds of billions of dollars more insolvency to medicare. there are ways to add it to medicaid but the first thing cannot be...

This problem before friday? >> i think in terms of political strategy on the part of the republicans who are being so obstinate and uncompromising, they've managed to move the debate from jobs to sequester. i'm not sure all members of congress could define sequester. it means automatic cuts with no thought. the meat ax just falls wherever. but they've managed to shift to a different turf, and therefore we're not arguing about how do we create more jobs in this country? because with a 7.8 unemployment rate, you're not going to balance the budget. we have to cut that by half. jared tried so hard...

>> i think in terms of political strategy on the part of the republicans who are being so obstinate and uncompromising, they've managed to move the debate from jobs to sequester. i'm not sure all members of congress could define sequester. it means automatic cuts with no thought. the meat ax just falls wherever. but they've managed to shift to a different turf, and therefore we're not arguing about how do we create more jobs in this country? because with a 7.8 unemployment rate, you're not going to balance the budget. we have to cut that by half. jared tried so hard in his own career and servi...

Strategy on the part of the republicans who are being so obstinate and uncompromising, they've managed to move the debate from jobs to sequester. i'm not sure all members of congress could define sequester. it means automatic cuts with no thought. the meat ax just falls wherever. but they've managed to shift to a different turf, and therefore we're not arguing about how do we create more jobs in this country? because with a 7.8 unemployment rate, you're not going to balance the budget. we have to cut that by half. jared tried so hard in his own career and service to the people of our country t...

Rick scott, you can go as liberal or as conservative as you want. they all come to you and they talk about medicaid. medicaid's killing us. >> absolutely. >> and yet washington does nothing on medicare and medicaid. instead they keep going back, as he said, with a meat ax to discretionary spending, which is about 12, 13% of the budget. >> haven't we been reading stories lately, jeff, about a savings in medicare that have come through? >> you know, medicare started some ways to cut back on the fee for service. and they said if your patients return to the hospital, for example, within certain nu...