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Pie. the cuts are the big part of the pie in long-term debt, and democrats still don't want to talk about it. they still don't want to put a budget out. the president still doesn't want to tell the truth about medicare. he still doesn't want to tell the truth about medicaid, about social security. i mean, this isn't a small part of saving america. lowering spending over the next generation is a huge part of saving america. >> look, one of the tragedies of what's been going on down there is we have been cutting but we've been cutting indiscriminately. we've been whacking with a meat ax and cutt...

Mandated, which the secretary of defense and our uniformed chiefs have said will devastate our national security. in fact, a marine deputy commandante said we couldn't respond to a crisis after these kinds of draconian measures are taken. i support further cuts in defense. but they have to be done with a scalpel and not with a meat ax. >> greta: whose fault is it that it is not ben being done today? whose fault it? because, you know what? no one seems to be working on it, today. >> if, actually, someone's working hard. but we haven't had much success. i will take the blame for t. you want to b...

Mandated, which the secretary of defense and our uniformed chiefs have said will devastate our national security. in fact, a marine deputy commandante said we couldn't respond to a crisis after these kinds of draconian measures are taken. i support further cuts in defense. but they have to be done with a scalpel and not with a meat ax. >> greta: whose fault is it that it is not ben being done today? whose fault it? because, you know what? no one seems to be working on it, today. >> if, actually, someone's working hard. but we haven't had much success. i will take the blame for t. you want to b...

For america, and it was polled 800 veterans and i think it's because they know ultimately what maintains our strength, and our military strength. it doesn't mean we don't think that afghanistan is important, of course we do, thinking about every guy over there. at the end of the day it's that economy that feeds our military power, if we don't address our debt, a threat to our national security fwe don't get it back on track, veterans know that and that's what concerned vets for america tries to talk about. >> one of those tough decisions is cuts to the military. regarding sequestration and the...

That seniors might have. and if you are bending the health care costs down as president obama said it would, it shouldn't be a problem to have a ceiling on the costs. you see the logic of what i am saying? >> greta: do i hear you. i know that it has, at least this week, has consumed the discussion in the campaign. let me ask about you sequestration. come january, unless something happen, there is going to be a huge jolt in many areas of the government. tell me what could be done to sort of forestall the sequestration and come up with a solution that really works and is wise and is prudent. >> ...