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>> two years later riper became famous playing michael stiffic. >> why don't you start with your buddy, nixon. >> archie bunker's liberal son in law on all in the family. >> you are a meat head. >> how important was the show in the 70s? >> it was important from a standpoint of breaking the mold. it was a realistic urban show. most of the shows at that time whether it was andy griffith, gomer pyle or petty coat junction, they had a rural quality to it. this was urban life. >> the biggest problem before all in the family that a family faced on television was the roast is ruined and the boss is c...

>> nice personal touch on that the president has to reach to people and make the call and connection that is established. it makes you feel good. this is somebody who will continue to do political coverage on the show. kind of nice moment. >> it was also favorable to donald trump. i don't know if he would call if it was a really antitrump show. i wondering like, i have an idea. if sitcoms will be introducing politics into their scripts can it go two ways? can a political show become a sitcom? i have a few ideas. it will be the life and antics of lou dobbs getting in trouble. all in the hannity...

Handing down the acts, and you have felt guilt for validating that culture? >> i spent nearly 30 years in the restaurant industry, an industry and culture that has been traditionally pervasively hostile to women. i celebrated that -- it was a very difficult 30 years, and in my first book that made my career, i think i -- i was so proud of having survived that i rom romanticized that culture and celebrated it in a way that i think unintentionally but it validated the worst instincts of meat head bro culture. >> first it's an acknowledgment and you are talking about it in a way many people would...

But i shave. >> too bad you always lose that argument. what was it about "all in the family" that was so different? >> i wasn't aware it was different. writing out of my own experience. i grew up with father who insisted i was laziest white kid he ever met. >> you're a meat head. >> what? >> dead from the neck up. meat head. >> norman lear blows lid off what a family sitcom is. >> we were writing about what we knew, what was happening in our families, up the street, down the street, across from each other. that's how we got to real problems. >> brother to brother talk about to put it delicatel...

Teeth and i have to shave. i hate to shave. mornings that i debate with the mirror. should i shave or cut my throat? i shave. >> too bad you always lose that argument. >> what was it about all in the family that was so different than the things that came before? >> i wasn't aware there was anything different. i was writing out of my own experience. i grew up with a father like archie bunker who insisted i was the laziest white kid he ever met. >> you are a meat head. and meat head dead from the neck up. meat head. >> norman leer blows the lid off what a family sitcom is. >> oh, archie! >> we w...