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Debatesing should i shave or cut my throat, but i shave. >> too bad you always lose that argument. what was it about "all in the family" that was so different? >> i wasn't aware it was different. i was writing out of my own experience. i grew up with father who insisted i was the laziest white kid he ever met. >> you're a meat head. >> what? >> dead from the neck up. meat head. >> norman lear blows lid off what a family sitcom is. >> we were writing about what we knew, what was happening in our families, up the street, down the street, across from each other. that's how we got to real problems...

Family" that was so different? >> i wasn't aware it was different. i grew up with father who insisted i was laziest white kid he ever met. >> you're a meat head. >> what? >> dead from the neck up. meat lead. >> norman lear blows lid off what a family sitcom is. >> we were writing about what we knew, what was happening in our families, up the street, down the street, across from each other. that's how we got to real problems. >> brother to brother talk about the birds and the bees. >> i have to study right now. i'll teach you about sex some other time okay? >> norman lear give you all in the fa...

But what strikes me, when i think back to that, you would tackle these political questions and you had cheaaracters that represented a variety of view points. everyone remembers archie bunker but you had meat head and the activists as well and it seems like you guys incorporated -- the appeal of the show was very broad and that was back in the day when there were four or five channels. when people do political television right now, are they aiming for a more narrow audience than you did? >> well, i think they are. there were three channels and only three networks. and we were attracting -- it'...

Something about the baby boomer politics. george w. bush, bill clinton and barack obama. you would have to go to pyongyang to get farther out on the political map than these guys. there's nothing in common. which brings up a good point about we think things are so polarized in washington. they are head butting. >> a lot baby boomers there. >> they are almost all baby boomers. they love to argue. take all this with a little grain of salt. it's archie and meat head. >> would that explain why sometimes it's hard to get things accomplished there? >> yes but when you think about the thing governmen...

You said this is not a new thing. it is a return of an old thing with extended families living together. >> yes. in some houses, not so pretty, but in a nice house, it can work. >> and it makes for a great sitcom. who can forget the bob crane show? >> who can forget the -- >> remember the bob crane show where they moved back into the garage? >> 18 and over on that one. >> what about meat head and what's her name moving in with archie? without them we would have had a lot of that repatroi. >> a nine-year-old rapper lil poopy -- i love this lyric, riding in the back because that's what bosses do...