Even if the rules are violated. as long as they have more customers, they feel they have more power. the only exception in terms of public housing, david, is if you get to the white house. >> well, bruce, shouldn't these people be evicted? >> well, wron if they should be evicted. that sounds harsh if you are dealing with people with families and children. perhaps there should be some new regulation or something that -- i think a lot of these are administered by the states. it's very confusing across the country. >> mike, evicted or not? >> david, you have to. when you start getting rid of rich...