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In this era of media bunkers an alternative realities, the white house press secretary faces some unique challenges. so let's hear from jen psaki to get her perspective five month news the job and what might lie ahead. >> jen, thanks for coming on "reliable sources." >> my pleasure. >> busy sum mer ahead, infrastructure, election reform, what does the press get wrong when covering biden's agenda, when you watch and read the news what, do you think we get wrong? >> well, look, i think some of the our muscles have atrophied over the last few years and there is not a lot of recent memory on how l...

How america lost its mind is the tiltle of a new book by harvard professor who says an assault on reasoning is crippling our democracy. i asked him why the country seems so mired in warring media bunkers right now and how to make our way out? >> the nobel laureate, daniel con man, said that we're really not driven by our desire to really understand things, to weigh the facts, we really look for explanations that tell us what we'd like to believe. and he said we have an amazing capacity to ignore our own ignorance and, you know, i think that's correct. and that gets compounded at a time where w...

>> he's watching. > he does sometimes watch cnn. he does. >> we're not going to correct him had. he's not going to change. he's so far down this road of evil, he's not going to change. we can change voters' minds for 2020. that's what we can do if we keep speaking forcefully and we talk about morality. journalists do not talk enough about morality because we think people will think we're biased. we need to keep talking about it because we have ans a northerly president and administration right now. >> david, april ryan, thank you so much. david's column is up on the baltimore sun's website. we...

Explained the stalemate well? do you know who to believe? who to trust? these are urgent questions. attacks on the news media led by the president are bound toe continto continue. when he calls real news fake, he's really telling you not to trust sources he doesn't personal personally approve of. how will this affect the ongoing russia investigations? will the country ever get to the bottom of it? will the country ever get over the election? maybe not if people remain trapped in media bubbles. really media bunkers, only hearing what they already believe. as trump begins a second year, it's a g...