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By the way, ups is a little more expensive than fedex, but if you're going the usps route, think about a media rate or media discount. you don't necessarily have to be in the media to get this. if you're shipping books or test materials or scripts and other stuff like that. >> how do you get that? >> you just ask. can i get a media rate. >> we had somebody on talking about how to ship on the cheap. if you ship a lot but not a ton, find someone else in the area that may be shipping something about the same size. >> smart. >> and hook up with them. >> smart. >> legal on the cheap. >> so obviousl...

Shipping stuff, all the time, all day, every day. by the way, ups is more expensive than fedex, but if you're going the usps route, think about a media rate or immediate gra d media discount. if you're shipping books or test materials or scripts and other stuff like that. >> how do you get that? >> you just ask. can i get a media rate. >> we had somebody on talking about how to ship on the cheap. if you ship a lot but not a ton, find someone else in the area that may be shipping something about the same size. >> smart. >> and hook up with them. >> smart. >> >> legal on the cheap. >> so obvious...