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We have so much circumstantial evidence against this guy and we're hoping that cohen has the goods and what have you. so it's wishful thinking. >> sandra: as far as i'm concerned we have no robert mueller report. we have no report as a result of that investigation but that was joy behar. it was an admission. we're so desperate to get this president, she said. do you think there will be lessons learned from all this, sean? >> not really. we saw it a few days ago with the buzz feed story. i would have thought a lot of folks in the media would have learned their lesson from jumping on that false ...

Sort of game of making our questions less legitimate and less significant and less important, he's doing something that's dangerous for other presidents and other press. and i think it's troublesome. >> interesting. now, how do you try to then convince the majority of trump voters who stand with the president and not the media? all these polls show media distrust at all-time highs among his base. >> again, i take the long view. our job is to cover the country fairly, to try to understand what happened three months ago in the presidential election, to listen to people, to try to air all sides. ...

Other outlets trying to work on this story. they rather talk about the media than the facts on the ground. that was my impression at the press conference. donald trump would rather attack the press, attack the messengers than deal with the questions. this is something we should expect to continue. to prepare to continue. we talk a lot about media distrust in this country, low levels of trust in media, the polls have shown it for years. we should also note how many viewers want us, want the press to be challenging power. whether it's bush, obama, trump and whoever comes after trump. my inbox is...

>> no doubt there's self-inflicted wounds the press have caused over the years. final word to you kristen. what do you find about media distrust and what do you find about attempts to repair it? >> media distrust is at incredible highs. it's particularly low with groups like even younger voters. those who were not around for the last 30 years ago back when people trusted the network news anchors. trust in media has declined but for a lot of voters in particular. they have never known an era where you're trusting at face value the stuff you see in your news. i think rebuilding that trust is ver...

This was his two-sided strategy from day one. >> you have to trust your instincts. you can't believe the press. you can't believe the press. >> his rage against the media machine went on for 16 months. >> i have a very big group of support, and i think one of the reasons is -- let me tell you, the people don't trust you and the people don't trust the media. >> trump was right about that. he was tapping into resentment that was there. trust in media levels were already pitifully low, and trump helped us see it, helped us hear it. in some ways, this was a good thing. journalists need to better u...