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Spread. there should be a different word -- photo spray, photo shoot, a big new naked photograph. no. so. like i said, it's not always easy to talk about this stuff, but now you know. and -- i just -- it would be easy to see this as a sideshow, because of the characters and content involved, right? because it's not being operated out of the special counsel's office, it's in new york, because of the change multilevels of media involvement and all the rest of it. but what we can tell about the substance of this case shows that this is not a circus for the president. this is freaking serious. thi...

>> it let's talk about this whole thing and barack obama. there are those people who say like been roads that barack obama would never do anything like this. yet, what we saw where we had a president who did nothing but campaign for the president's opponent, hillary clinton and call donald on virtually every name of the book. colton basically a liar, dark and pessimistic. would this surprise you? >> this would not surprise me. look where we. look where we are with politics and particularly with media involvement. this is an administration that has the agencies to target political opponents of ...

>> it let's talk about this whole thing and barack obama. there are those people who say like been roads that barack obama would never do anything like this. yet, what we saw where we had a president who did nothing but campaign for the president's opponent, hillary clinton and call donald on virtually every name of the book. colton basically a liar, dark and pessimistic. would this surprise you? >> this would not surprise me. look where we. look where we are with politics and particularly with media involvement. this is an administration that has the agencies to target political opponents of ...

Wikileaks hacks and also, on october 19th before all those comments you saw from donald trump, marco rubio, the republican senator of florida was saying, hey, i think people shouldn't even touch the wikileaks story given it's a foreign state that has involvement in our elections and donald trump and his campaign kept pressing the issue. >> and mark, the latest and part of the media involvement is that it's stolen information and there's now criticism and we have to reflect as the media on the reporting of these hacked e-mails that were stolen. >> reporter: tamron, that's right. the news media ...

And had the purpose of killing in the people? is that really something that we need to know that is good for us to know? >> well, jenna, my particular concern along those lines would be kids being exposed to too much of it and focusing on it too much and becoming worried that the world is unsafe and unpredictable and all like that. in general i feel that the media involvement in a case like this expands the size of the courtroom big enough to include or encompass anybody in our country that wants to be present for proceedings. i think that is a good thing. but i don't think people ought to be ...