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Vitriolic and violent and unrestrained they were in that response. you know, i think -- what i saw from this, and you know that's a great -- by the way, clips of what happens with fox because fox is so important to it. it's the big club. it's the one with three million viewers at night that can really send out a message. and you have jesse waters, for example, a host out there, saying they've declared war on us. game on. that's the kind of rhetoric that's a call to arms. it's a literal call to arms, and we saw on january 6th what a tweet like from president trump, like former president trump, ...

It's great to have you. so much in this book that's exactly relevant for stuff that's happening in the news today. that report from isaac was revealing there are people within the white house who feel like they're not getting their message out. how true? >> definitely true. and i put myself in the top percentile of americans sympathetic to the challenges they have. when i worked in the white house, it was hard to get our message out because the media environment was so chaotic and hyperbolic and there was this emerging right wing media machine that was starting to drown out our message. that p...

Decades of infrastructure, and essentially what we're talking about is an anti-immigration media machine. nothing like this exists on the pro-immigration or progressive side. and perhaps, that's the reason why we keep losing on this issue. >> yeah this is big money. this is not populism, to your point. before i move over to hassan, give us a sense of the kind of videos that are most effective on changing peoples minds on immigration. >> yeah, absolutely, one of the elements that we studied in our report is actually around the packaging of these videos. so we were really interested in the way t...

Particular, go in one direction. i believe i have heard that somewhere before. stelter answers that right wing narrative about cnn. he does this with a straight face. he perceives not to address any of the points the student made. we know now that this is a classic example of the right wing media machine. this has always been the play book. stories damaging the democrats or media. blame the right wing media. blame russian disinformation. we wonder why more americans see journalists as activists. once that trust is broken, it is very hard to put humpty dumpty back together. >> sean: hard to see...

Sense. Wel welcome, this is early start. Im christine romans. It is 5 00 a. M. In new york. Laura has the day off. We again with a residential Building Collapse theyre miami beach, dozens of rescue units are on the scene. Were heading there right now, this happened just in the past few hours. We know Something Like 100 units from miami rescue are on the scene there trying to dig through this partial Building Collapse. If you know miami, this is 88th and collins, the village is called surfside. Again, well bring you live details as we get them this morning. Next 24 hours hugely critical to the ...