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The anti-- the environmentalist. >> what about the media matters study. liberal website says the pipeline is getting all the good press. >> well, what do you think they're going to say? of course they'll come up with that study. as cal said, unemployment is a big issue in this country and jobs are a big issue. james from reuters made the point the unemployment rate is 8.5%. at the same time president obama can use energy 25 times dancing around the -- >> back to columbia journalism they did a study on where the numbers came from in terms of the statistics. this this they took it apart from the...

Hearings generally. >> look, it's good political theater, back and forth. impugning each other's motives. >> who do you think we are, britain? >> there you go. but look, the real -- the reason it got a lot of traction besides the media action study which said there were more pro than antipipeline people, it's a better story. 20,000 jobs, oil that answers our energy concerns. canada will sell to china if we don't get it to the pro pipeline people were nor interesting than the anti-- the environmentalist. >> what about the media matters study. liberal website says the pipeline is getting all the...