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Was petty, i was -- >> jessica: it was not malicious. >> lawrence: jessica, i was at the rallies with all white people there, they told them to stop burning the places and they continued to do it, and weaponmized the police against us. i was there, and they did, and they divide the country, again, it's their fault for being suckered. >> jessica: i'm the first person to say the fact that latinx exists as a term is a white person problem, latinos do not like that term, it's the same thing that black people were not supporting b.l.m. but were supporting the movement and it's unfair to say that ci...

From that. did we fail as a country to confront the radicalism of things like the tea party and birthers early enough to save ourselves from these people today? >> yes. the answer to that is yes. i mean, i think -- and i look at myself as one of those people that -- i tried to sound the alarm. i left the republican party 15 years ago and tried to sound the alarm about what was coming. i tried to warn about donald trump. i could have done more. the media, part to have media problem, and i'm not -- i'm a huge first amendment believer. i think it's crucial for our democracy and people have a righ...

Have common sense policies on the economy and covid that work for them they would stay in the democrat party. now they are like we don't have a choice. we'll vote republican because the democrats have left us. >> harris: jason, i ask you the same question and you hear sean there talking about the aoc and all of that contingent and the twittersphere, the loud voices. why are they being listened to? >> i largely agree with a lot of aoc's goals. i just said in terms of electoral strategy i think james carville is right in a lot of ways in order to win some of these elections and get some of what ...

Kind of throughout the internet newsscape. without getting into the policy meanings behind that phrase, as you mentioned, i think what we know is that there's no clear correlation between jurisdictions that made reductions to police budgets and the crime rate. in the small number of cities that shifted funding to social services, crime went up, stayed the same, or it went down. you can find that variation in cities where police budgets remain the same. or even increased. it's absolutely about a political narrative and it's useful for republicans as we enter the midterms but i think it's also w...