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Off the mat. it's an incomplete, though, for democrats, to give up in terms of the numbers of people that i.c.e. can in fact hold in terms of the children's beds and all, to not protect the human rights there with a r ceiling and i thk is an incomplete. >> so it's not a knockout -- maybe it's a technical knockout. >> maybe the guy hit himself on the h way back to the i don't us concerned about the human rights ofhe this have gone to t border and that have seen this has slowed down. i don't think that we're going to be popping the champagne. we're glad we're going to see a point of view. >> i u...

>> the entire media world, knock we can all say we did the if trues and if trues and we said we could not confirm and that's all true. you know, it was something that the entire media world was telling the public this is probably true by the way we covered this. now look. >> my view this is -- the larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president and they are willing to lie to do it. and i don't think that's true. but,. >> i mean i'm talking about the media side. talking about the law enf...

They are afraid they are going to be smeared. the damage was done by themselves. take a look. >> the entire media world, we can all say we did the "if trues" and "if trues" and we said we could not confirm and that's all true. you know, it was something that the entire media world was telling the public this is probably true, by the way we covered this. now look. >> my view this is -- the larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president and they are willing to lie to do it. and i don't t...

Russians. >> i kdid not communicate with them. everybody on the republican conservative and media side. i saw this and i thought it was hypocritical wanting to be when they said it wasn't the russians. >> the benign interpretation is that a lot of people shade a lot of things for their team. a benign interpretation. what we keep learning with the coordination whether donald trump sounded so loving about wikileaks because he knew something. hang with me. evelyn, thanks for your experti expertise. how today's indictment carries national security implications. mueller not only indicting the 12 ...

Heck out of the show. >> i know people will find this shocking, the idea that two lawyers either working on a settlement or have settled cases end up talking together to figure out how to deal with the media aspect of it. meaning lawyers, like in any other industry, end up working together even if they're on other sides of the issue. >> these don't strike you as uncommon? >> the only reason it's uncommon is because we are talking about going on tv. she was paid $130. that's not nothing. meaning a settlement was reached. the idea that these two attorneys had been having conversations about how ...