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Rights as innocent citizens, and when you have that, the average person does not turn and think i think we need more laws. the average person says i am going to get more guns, and i'm going to get more ammo. and all across america, there were people doing that today. >> a better drummer for the other country band, or the guitarist, he said a look at, we have guns. everyone in my band has guns, if we had tried shooting back at, police would have shot us. we are not talking about confiscating people's guns. we're talking about the why should people have assault rifles? why is that they right? >>...

Trying to get close to influence people of influence. that's what they do. that is not, in itself, surprising. >> so -- >> what is perfectly appropriate, obviously, is for the fbi to investigate and find out the extent to which they might have actually influenced somebody. >> i think the attorney general makes an excellent point about this term, "person of interest," which is this sort of media term that is not familiar to those of us who have practiced in the federal courts. however, i think the attorney general mukasey is very much wrong that this is just a national security investigation, a...

Like, a witness. what do you make of this? >> what i make of it is, if you read back what you just said, you used two terms that are unknown to any federal investigator. person of interest is not a term that any federal investigator ever uses. and it's not a term that's appropriate to this investigation. this is a national security reque investigation. it's not a criminal investigation. in criminal investigations, there are three kinds of folks that the authorities talk to. witnesses who may have some fact that they're interested in investigating. subjects, who may be looked at, because it's p...

>> first of all, the carveout is to make sure those people are not discriminated against because of religious believes in the country can come to america. that's what the statue of liberty is about. if you're oppressed for wanting to exercise your religious believes by a government in another country, you can come here freely to exercise your beliefs. he did not pick countries based on religion, but picked countries based on information they have regarding threats to the united states. he should have been more specific about it. there's intelligence out there that's going to allow him to be mo...

Here freely to exercise your beli beliefs. he did not pick countries based on religion, but picked countries based on information they have regarding threats to the united states. he should have been more specific about it. there's intelligence out there that's going to allow him to be more specific about it, and i hope they use -- i think they should use that time before they announce to refine it further, but now that that 90 days to refine it further, and they should do that to just put to rest this idea that the muslim ban because it's not a muslim ban. he advocated a muslim ban earlier. t...