Heart surgeries. when we make a decision it's based on a medical decision and my faith had. .who i don't turn to is random doctors, random scientists, politicians, and no offense but news anchors. you know, it's a very personal decision. and it's not one that's to be made lightly. todd: there are twos questions that i find to really get at the heart of this. i'm going to ask them to each of you now. will, first to you. has anyone ever refused your help at a fire because you are not vaccinated? >> definitely not at a fire. but i think also the other thing we're not -- that needs to be talked ab...