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People to buy insurance. either pay a higher presume yum or get higher deductibles. this plan doesn t answer your criticisms of obamacare. i agree with that point. i think essential benefits have to go. catastrophic policy, steve. people should have the option to buy what s useful for them. we will bring in health savings accounts. let s taum counsel. and have a rational discussion. let me finish my point. i asked you last time what essential benefit were you going to remove and you didn t mention one. no i did mention one. which one? the main point i talked about maternity coverage not everybody paying for that here is the main point. but then. steve: one at a time. here is the maintain point i want to make i m not against government providing mammograms or vaccines. the problem is sneaking in having somebody pay for it that doesn t need it. let the government either provide free clinics or give money to insurance companies to pay for the person who needs the mammo ....
Done is to separate the issues. what s been introduced in the house in the last 24 hours is not the obamacare real estate placement plan. are not the obamacare repeal plan we have been hoping for. this is instead a step in the wrong direction. as much as anything it s a missed opportunity. ainsley: a lot of people are upset about it freedom caucus there. republican us complaining about it it s got to be broken down into three phases. brian: his point and steve s point. steve: there are a lot of points. ainsley: going to go through three different phases. if you don t like something you are going to have an opportunity in congress to give your opinion and help fix it. now, obamacare, here are the facts. obamacare is not working. it is failing. the government cannot afford it. these insurance companies are pulling out. something has to be done. that might mean that some people are going to lose their entitlements. you might get 80% of coverage and you might have to pay 20% or something ....
this single bill is thought the entire plan. there will three different faces. one is this bill that has to go through reconciliation because it s a budget process. two is all of the rules and regulations. you remember all the things that the previous administration did? hundreds of rules, thousands, literally thousands of guidance letters. we will go through every single one of them whether they help or hurt patients. if they hurt patients we will do our best to get rid of them. third phase is another piece of legislation that can t be done through reconciliation because of the specific rules. those are the kind of things we will do in those phase ii and 3. ainsley: that should make the freedom caucus happy different phases and opportunities to make the changes that they want to make. steve: right, they don t like it as it is. keep in mind, this is how it is starting right now, pretty clear from leadership that this is going to be the one shot. this is going to be the one bill. beca ....
the state of hawaii has announced it will challenge the trump administration revised executive order. [screams] no river wide enough to keep me from you steve: come on in, folks. live from studio e. ainsley: welcome to the curvey couch. steve: wet wednesday for a new york city. ainsley: it is. but guess what? two more alarm clocks. brian: i will say this for the record there are mountains high enough to keep me off them. i know the song says ain t no mountains high enough. ainsley: we like you here at work. brian: nothing that will stop hackers for exploiting our intelligence agencies and maybe the worst hack yet in american history took place against the cia. ainsley: wikileaks releases 8,000 pages worth of documents, information releasing how the cia actually hacks. ....
Action. steve: whether a is the action the republican plan gets rid of penalties for businesses and individuals. that s great. you don t have to buy insurance if you don t want to. it defunds planned parenthood. and then for people who can t afford it, it winds up giving them tax credits. they used to call them tax subsidies. it s just a word thing. and some republicans, conservative republicans say, look, it s still an entitlement and we re going to have to vote against it of course, this is round 1. this is how negotiations start. they say that now. what are they going to say down the pike. the texas chairman kevin brady of ways and means is firmly behind it. he is one of the authors of it paul ryan is also a conservative s conservative for the most part. and he is for it a lot of people are against it including our guest in 10 minutes. and that is from the freedom caucus illinois excuse me ohio congressman jim jordan will be with us shortly. here is health and human services sec ....