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We wouldn't be successful on skbl o. one of the reasons why i wanted to have the discussion is you have an unorthodox approach. a lot of people expect the megaphone approach, which is to broadcast your ideas, get a lot of people on board. you have more the cell phone approach. you're not broadcasting, you're kind of narrow casting to particular leaders. i think it's important for people to understand how you approach this stuff. let's start where we started on prison reform. why are you working on prison reform and criminal justice? >> so when i came to washington i obviously had two primary...

Heartburn over it, but at the end of the day, it is about policies and jobs and economy, and as long as that is strong, the republicans are in good shape. >> and howard, you president trump, and you know, immediately taking to twitter on all of this saying that it was an accurate, and talk thing aing the polling ahead of the 2016 election, and they will never learn. he called it a suppressional poll. >> suppressional poll. so the credibility of american pollsters aside, and we saw and upset in florida, and obviously, donald trump was the beneficiary less than two years ago. so putting the poll...