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Parties to get them across the border and the federal government ought to be in the business of abiding by the laws, not, not violating the laws. so who is responsible for our violating the laws, that person ought to be held responsible and quite frankly ought to be fired and maybe even further. jenna: how high, how high do you think it goes? well i don t know but because of mr. melson s testimony, for the first time we ve learned a couple things that we didn t know before. number one, the fbi and the drug enforcement people are involved in this as well as atf people and we . jenna: senator, sorry to interrupt, really quick here on that with the fbi being involved, we told our viewers 2,000 guns were sold to various minor criminals. was the fbi involved at all in screening who actually got those guns? all i can say at this point is, they knew about the operation, fast and furious. then the last thing we learned from mr. melson was, that people really high up ....
Delivering the assault weapons that were used to kill brian into the killer s hands. martha: it s so important that we find out, you know, where this program came from, who knew about it, how it was carried out. we talked to congressman darrell issa and senator grassley at length on this program. now it s raising a question, now that you re representing the family. what does the family want from the u.s. government at this point? what the terry family wants is to make sure that no other family lives through the tragedy that they ve experienced, that no other family has to suffer because law enforcement made the kinds of desists that were madee learned here. martha: one of the questions is how high up the chain this goes. attorney general eric holder said he was not aware of this program. mr. melson the head of the atf ....
Is he really the only one that should be taking the blame for this? i think that s left to be determined. the justice department says that there s an ongoing internal investigation which will determine how far up this went. if you talk to members of congress they believe it goes much higher and they re planning to try to find that out over the next few months. last week there was a hearing in which they were documents introduced by congressman issa which showed that mr. melson was watching, requesting and asking for ways for cameras which were planted inside gun stores for the means to be able to watch some of the transactions go down. so that was not a very good day for mr. melson. that s part of what, there are more documents to come, i m sure that portray, you know, how much ....
Responsible, such as beenee brewer and yourself. regular order. he will be allowed to answer this question. he hasn t asked the question. i m halfway through it if you ll keep interrupting. if in fact the statute says they are responsible and if in fact they are not read regular order. i want the american people to understand. regular order. who is responsible for the attorney general will be allowed to answer. anyone reading these, including former director melson, anyone reading these would be sick to their stomach because they would be immediately aware do you have a question, mr. chairman. who is responsible mr. attorney general. you ve combined those things. regular order now, mr. chairman, will he be allowed to answer the question now. the attorney will be allowed to answer the question but i d appreciate no more interest ruplgss so thinterest rungses ....