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For example, in colorado springs where an individual with a concealed carry stopped somebody who was going to kill multiple people in a church, and wounded them so they could not continue to do that. it's a controversial issue. the fact is, i would go back -- let's fix the real problem. here is a mentally deranged person who had access to a gun that shouldn't have had access to a gun. how do we stop that? there's a hole in what we need to do. i'm willing to work with senator schumer or anybody else that wants to make sure that people who are mentally ill cannot get and use a gun. >> one more o...

Where an individual with a concealed carry stopped somebody who was going to kill multiple people in a church, and wounded them so they could not continue to do that. it's a controversial issue. the fact is, i would go back -- let's fix the real problem. here is a mentally deranged person who had access to a gun that shouldn't have had access to a gun. how do we stop that? there's a hole in what we need to do. i'm willing to work with senator schumer or anybody else that wants to make sure that people who are mentally ill cannot get and use a gun. >> one more on this, senator schumer, what abo...

The house who have said when they go out to similar kinds of constituent meetings, they're going to bring a gun. former member delay said on "hardball" on msnbc, he would be happy with people with concealed weapons, so that anybody who tried something, they would understand that they're going to defend themselves. is that the right response? >> there is a right to bear arms. it's in the constitution. you can't ignore it, just like you can't ignore the others. like the other rights, tea not -- it is not absolute. first amendment, we have laws against pornography. you can't scream fire falsely i...