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The job. that goes all the way through his position now as former president. he goes through it at mar-a-lago. he feels these documents and these things are just accouterments that are part of mementoes of his time as president. and over 18 months that the government was trying to retrieve some of these things, he seemed to never really appreciate that this was serious. and that s reason why we get to the place we are now. you know, it is one of those things where there s a history. and there s a history of mar-a-lago, too, where you have foreign nationals who were prosecuted for trying to get in there. we knew and everyone knew that the security and the protocols for entering mar-a-lago were not what they should be, certainly not if you re going to be storing these sensitive type of materials there. and doug, to the point of i think many people are asking the same question. you ve heard the same of and i reference it like in the office when michael scott says, ....
Called the presidential records act. but trump appeared to show little regard for preserving official records. according to the archives, many of the documents that were turned over when he left office had been torn into pieces by trump himself, some of them later taped together by his aides. others still in pieces. jon karl with us live from washington. it would seem the obvious question, any explanation why president trump took the 15 boxes of documents and, i guess, why it took a year to get them back? reporter: it s unclear, david. we have asked the former president s staff and received no answers, so we don t know whether he was simply taking mementoes with him or if he had another reason taking 15 boxes worth of what are presidential records out of the white house. jon karl in washington tonight, thank you. when we come back here on a monday night, the american olympic star, the skating star, and the covid news tonight. he will not be competing. and the woman plunging ....
Report and the fact that the truth is stranger than fiction. but then again we re talking to a man now, tim naftali, you know full well that the so-called plumbers of the world had a role in nixon s own experience when it comes to evaluating what he did and did not do. i wonder from your perspective, give us a little bit of the history. until nixon, the idea of presidents being able to take their documents, their mementoes, whatever their records were, that was pretty standard practice at that point. it was, yes. i think donald trump has certainly given the new meaning to the term white house plumbers. in the nixon case, the plumbers were supposed to prevent leaks. in trump s case, they were supposed to help get rid of documents, i suppose. our once again, this is a presidential norm. our first president, george washington, decided that his ....
but the people of african descent in this country, descendants of slaves, what benefits did they get from slavery? they re here. what s amazing is you get such a sense of place. this can be everytown, usa, but you re kind of surrounded with mementoes from the past, right, including mementoes and monuments to the confederacy. how do you grapple with that? how do you grapple with pretty and the nice with the ugly underbelt? there s as much division in a way because history means there s a lack of consideration of how this might make us feel, black americans feel. there seems to be this lock on the idea that we can t do it to history. not history. coming up, my conversation with a descendant of the president of the confederacy, jefferson davis. ....
When dividing up their possessions, couples should continually ask themselves whether it's the item itself they want, or revenge for their hurt feelings. ....