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Rallying cry for them and it gives them some sort of -- something to, you know, defend and come out for, rally for? >> probably does. and that's very tragic and that's very unfortunate. let me say one other thing, though. you know, there's buildings being built all the time. there's lots of things to memorialize. i'm certainly against memorialization of, you know, robert e. lee a traitor. i do think it would be nice to maybe spend a bit more time thinking of, well, there are a lot of wonderful people that need to be

Rallying cry for hateful ideology? i know you'll say at least it exposes them. maybe i'm putting words in your mouth. but doesn't it sort of provide a rallying cry for them and it gives them, you know, some sort of something to, you know, defend and come out for, rally for? >> probably does, and that's very tragic, and that's very unfortunate. let me say one other thing, though. you know, there's buildings being built all the time. there's lots of things to memorialize. i'm certainly against memorialization of, you know, robert e. lee, a traitor. i do think it would be nice to maybe spend a bi...