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>> anthony: do we over romanticize that period? i mean, was it special? >> richard: i think the creation of the mythology of the '70s kind of began in the mid-'90s. i can see why people who weren't there wish they were there. but it goes against all my instincts to think that way just because, the idea is, we didn't like the way things were, so we decided to change them . >> anthony: have you ever considered writing a dishy memoir? i mean, my god, it would be 800 pages long. >> danny: i can't. you know why? because so many people are still alive. >> anthony: i mean, people love you. >> danny: ...

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Contemporaries, the people around you who weren't doing as well. letting each other sleep on each other's floor. >> debbie: there was nothing at stake. >> anthony: there was nothing at stake. i just think a lot of people had low expectations, you didn't, you had a plan, right? >> chris: well, no, if we had a plan we would've made more money, and not got so completely [ bleep ] over by the industry, as it were. >> debbie: we had a plan to survive. >> chris: yeah, ongoing. >> debbie: we had a plan to keep going, doggedly. but i think the thing that was so attractive about that period was you wer...

Financial success has come from? "hey, ho, let's go!" sung in football and soccer stadiums around the world. and the ramones estates are gathering in more money from five seconds than they ever made -- is that the measure of greatness? or eternity? that's one of them. ♪ >> anthony: so many people died, so many people didn't get recognized. richard hell is still living in the same apartment he lived in 40 years ago. >> danny: who likes to move in new york? you've got a good deal, the neighborhood got all better around him, you know? iggy was supposed to be the one who didn't make it most of a...

>> chris: yeah, those guys were sampling stuff. >> debbie: rapping was always just scratching and sampling, so we, you know, made it viably commercial. >> anthony: and then, you know, another earth shattering event, "wild style". >> freddy: i had an idea, if we could make a movie, and show that this rapping, this dancing, and this deejaying was one thing. so i was on a trip to germany not long after the film had aired, and i see these kids break-dancing. i'm like, "what the hell is going on?" as i got closer, i noticed the moves the kids were doing were the exact same moves that the rock stead...