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At there was sort of this stunned silence that took the room over that was such a left-hand turn from where we were going that this was just a train going too fast. how do you connect those two dots? >> well we can't connect them right now based on what we know. but, you know, the deliberate process the ntsb uses in every investigation is they look at everything. so now they've looked at the communications between the trains. they've heard the conversations between the new jersey folks and this particular train. they see physical evidence on the train that something happened. and now they're g...

Consultation with others. and he made a determination based on that consultation and based on adele l deliberate pro >> that is not what the president said to lester holt. the president said to lester holt that he had already made the decision to fire james comey. so i'm confused here. you just said, you just said he that he asked for this consultation, which by the way, let me also say here, mr. rosenstein in his prepared statement in his testimony to congress last month said my men ran is not statement to justify a four-cause termination so i'm confused by your rational here. >> the letter t...