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Inspiring people who may have no direct link. what can you tell us from your reporting about where this fits in on that spectrum? >> ill think this is an individual who falls in on the end of that spectrum that is very loose, if not absolute zero affiliation with the organization to -- he has a criminal back ground. a lot of mental instability, according to the prime minister. i think this is an individual who falls on the spectrum of least likely, if you will, to be asoeszuated with these types of organizations. what we do see, and exactly to quote the words of the australian prime minister, ...

States of acting like a mafia figure taking control of smaller countries. he uses the iraq war as an example of that. now, this type of language, of course, plays in very well to the message that north korea is trying to send not only to its own people, but the rest of the world, that america is an imperialist that is unfairly treating north korea and accusing north korea inaccurately of widespread human rights abuses that were laid out in the united nations report earlier this year. even though this young man has a history of mental instability, he is being taken very seriously in north korea...

U.s. economic and foreign policy, and now new details are coming about about who this man actually is and why he may have decided to make the dangerous journey into north korea. here's cnn's will ripley. >> here's what we're learning about arturo. he is 29 years old from el paso, texas, and most importantly here, he has a history of mental instability, including a bipolar diagnosis. his mother says he is off his medication right now, sh & she's been very concerned about him since they last had contact in november. that's when the pyongyang leadership says martinez illegally crossed from beijin...

Beauty of the bridge, a piece of iron. what are they compared to one human livment what if that was your son or daughter. that's what we have to get people to understand that these people who go there to die, they don't necessarily want to but they are in a state of mental instability, where they feel there is not another option. and those are the people we have to reach out to. because they are suffering and they deserve hope just like everyone else. >> i'm so glad to see you again, so glad you're doing well. and thank you for staying on this. i mean look, kevin. as i said one of the greatest...

Aesthetics of the bridge? >> the aesthetics of the bridge? >> it was a huge issue. they didn't want to ruin the beauty of a bridge. a piece of iron. what are the aesthetics compared to one human life. what if that was your mom or your dad or your son or your daughter. that's what we have to get people to understand, these people who go there to die, they don't necessarily want to, but they are in a state of mental instability where they feel there is not another option and those are the people we have to reach out to. because they're suffering. and they deserve hope just like everyone else. >>...