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And trying to attract investors and explain the program and discussed their own specific companies. they did not do it the right way and they knew what they were doing. it was wrong. >> they did it at the best you can say with a link. let me ask you this. what law -- in this case, this would not be a violation of the e moll umts clause. this was involving kushner? >> there was no money coming in and it was not foreign government money. it covers the kushners as well as trp. everyone in the government and the foreign government money from being transferred to the government officials and benefi...

Are putting in their presentation. they used the name of the president and jared kushner's name to so lilicit money for th family. >> how do you get legally right here. if jared kushner came to you and said i want your advice. me how to do this. what would you tell him? >> the first thing is exclude the kushner family and businesses from this program. there should be none of these visas given to their investors. anybody who creates the impression that there will be favoritism towards their business whether because of campaign contributions or because they are with a family of a high ranking go...

>> they are falling under the bribery aspect. if you invest in the kushner business, you are more likely to get the visa because of the influence of the curb near family in the white house that. is solicitation of a bribe. >> that are gets to the matter of where i started. it seems like the entire program is a corruptible program. even when it's run supposedly on the up and up. richard painter, as always, thank you for your time. >> how much would you pay for a seat if that seat were in the house of representatives? we'll be right back with the answer.

Contributor or a family of a united states government official. what the kushner family did fell just short of soliciting where they are suggesting if you invest in their program and their projects, you will get the visa. the clear implication was that you are more likely to get the visa by investing with them as opposed to other programs, other projects that qualify. >> the reason i ask about the program in general before i get to the kushner involvement and how close to the president and all of that, i guess the very idea of this program, you just described and had a definition of bribery. h...

Point where that is unfair to an individual who happens to have the last name of someone in the family or doesn't believe they have any ties? how do you protect a citizen to do business? what is the line there that protects somebody who happens to have kushner's last name. is a cousin or maybe in real estate. is there just -- they have to suck it up and deal with it? >> they had no need to mention jared kushner's name and put president trump up on the screen. he doesn't make decisions or shouldn't be making decisions about which specific companies investors get those visas. those decisions are...