Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180513:04:11:00
>> so let's pause there. what you're really saying is the defense that's expected from cohen is everyone was wasting their money and he was lightly, not fully defrauding, just lightly misleading them he could do more than he could. you're saying if you get enough records, minutes, fec meetings, merger planning, you might find that he actually was influence. >> michael cohen might have thought novartis and at&t were stupid but they're not. he might think we're being stupid that he got all this money and did nothing. we're already finding evidence that the influence got them access and the ameri...
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