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Woman in ohio, they care about the same things. both trying to feed their families that the democratic coalition shouldn't make the mistake of overlearns from 2016 we're still waiting on biden and bernie, the white men of the democratic field in addition to being the bs. where do you think the party will come down on that debate? >> good question i think there isn't necessarily a demographic play when it comes to the candidate to winning back some of those voters in wisconsin, ohio, michigan, and across the midwest voters democrats had lost a lot of people would argue it's a message issue. not...

Decades. obama's coalition in 2008 led democrats to believe this was going to be a lasting coalition that would keep them as the governing party for decades. it worked for obama in 2008, it worked for him in 2012, it feel apart in 2010 elections and 2004, and it's falling apart in the special election this is year and that should worry democrats a lot. >> why don't you think jon ossoff's message not work this time around david? he took a centrist position hoping not to alienate republicans. >> i'm not sure his message did work, i'm not sure what to blame the loss on. it's a few percentage poin...

Unevenly filtered. she won on the east and west coast. speaking to people in the middle of the country in rural less populated he is areas. let's think about this. she needed we knew donald trump's only path to victory was through the midwest, through theç rust belt and he did beautifully and give him credited for. she visited wisconsin not once. she visited michigan only toward the end. if she had a real message to those voters in the midwest and rust vet that would have made a difference. >> you are saying had you a bad candidate. >> bad candidate and also a message issue. >> let's go back...

Unevenly filtered. she won on the east and west coast. speaking to people in the middle of the country in rural less populated he is areas. let's think about this. she needed we knew donald trump's only path to victory was through the midwest, through theç rust belt and he did beautifully and give him credited for. she visited wisconsin not once. she visited michigan only toward the end. if she had a real message to those voters in the midwest and rust vet that would have made a difference. >> you are saying had you a bad candidate. >> bad candidate and also a message issue. >> let's go back...

Speeches to the american people explaining it. congress is explaining it. nancy pelosi was explaining it. it isn't explainable. it's not a good bill and they didn't solve a problem which is why we're back discussing health care all over again. >> you think it's a policy issue and not a message issue. >> totally. >> ed, republican strategist, you're on the opposite side of tara, do you think it's ok for a president to make mistakes? does it make more human? >> sure. every president makes mistakes, some more severe than others. this president set a tone when he sat down with republicans and said...