Not having undue outside influence but it doesn't necessarily mean he will like it but this is something blazed on previous witnesses and not as though the government is unfairly punishing him. >> shan, we just learned that the president's press secretary sarah sanders was interviewed by the special counsel last year. how important could she be to mueller's investigation? and what do you think they may have asked her? >> i think she could be very important. the spokesperson, obviously, needs to hear a lot of the inside information in order to figure out what the message is, and there is no pr ...