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>> pursuant to house regulation ten, the chair announces the committee's approval to release deposition material presented during this hearing. good afternoon. in our hearings over the previous weeks, the select committee has laid out the details of a multi part pressure campaign driven by the former president aimed at overturning the results of the 2020 presidential election and blocking the transfer of power. we have shown that this effort was based on a lie, a lie that the election was stolen, candid by why spread throughout of donald trump's big lie. in the weeks ahead, the commi...

Believing me but i think frustrated that the president had said that. we ended the phone conversation after that. i called mr. ornato to confirm we weren't going to the capital. this was also in our text messages. i sent mr. mccarthy another text, telling him that we were not going up to the capitol. he didn't respond after that. >> and we understand, miss hutchinson, that the plans for the president to go to the capitol and included discussions at some point about where the president would do when he came up to the capitol on january 6th. let's look at a clip of one of your interviews discuss...

Moment to ask you, miss hutchinson, to explain some of the terminology you will hear today. we've heard you used two different terms to describe plans for the presidents movement, to the capitol or anywhere else. one of those is a scheduled movement and another one's ot are. could you describe for us what each of those mean? >> as scheduled presidential movement is on his official schedule. it's an advice to the press on to a wide range of staff that would be traveling with him. it's known to the public. known to the secret service, and they are able to coordinate the movement days in advance....

Mark meadows for the. >> at the rally say, when he got off the stage, and everybody was making movement back to the motorcade, i overheard mr. meadows say to him, as i heard prior to trump taking the stage that morning, that he was still working on getting and off-the-record movement to the capitol. but when mr. trump took the stage, he was under the impression by mr. meadows that it was still possible. when he got off the stage, i had related to mr. meadows that i had another conversation with tony, the move was still not possible. mr. meadows said, okay. as they proceeded to go to the motorc...

To the press, if that is the goal. or to not to have as many security parameters put in place ahead of time to make the movement happen. >> thank you. let's turn back to the presidents plans to travel to the capitol on january 6th. we know white house counsel pat cipollone was concerned about the legal implications of such a trip. he agreed with a secret service that it shouldn't happen. miss hutchinson, did you have any conversations with pat cipollone about his concerns about going to the capitol on january 6th? >> and january 3rd mr. cipollone approach me knowing mac had not raised the pros...