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They've decided not to have insurance. then they get sick and want other people to pay for it. >> so let's talk about this. he also already said the whole problem with people with preexisting conditions, people are sick because they didn't live healthy lives, it's their own fault if they're sick. >> the idea of people having insurance so other people don't have to pay for it is not a new idea, it's the guiding principle behind the obama health care program. we've had three straight presidents where the president has lost either one chamber during their first term, or both, and have lost both c...

And we have never seen a party try to roll back a major social program on this scale. we don't know what that looks like from a public point of view. when we talk about a messaging perspective, i heard secretary price. it was a lot of good rhetoric. he had very few specifics. it was basically a campaign kind of interview. i think they have to be very, very careful with the unknowns here. it's a very volatile issue and a very volatile political climate. >> i think one of the challenges you're seeing republicans grapple with here is they are trying to do something historic, which is to roll back...

Spicer should have done. >> i do. i do. i don't understand where he came from on that. i don't know if he had marching orders, if he came out in emotion. i'm sure he knew the boss was watching. he very well may end up getting his sea legs under him as he and the president get to know each other better. let's see how this week transpires. i'm pretty excited about the stuff we have to do. from a messaging perspective, they're going to have to get themselves way more disciplined. >> just a final question to you. republicans have control of both houses of congress. mr. trump is banking on that. if...

>> it would not -- >> cyclically the democrats are supposed to lose. i mean, i don't have to tell you this but for the audience ordinarily after two terms -- >> and she will. >> shift to the other side. let me ask you this, why is it so hard for all the sacrifice, all the work you've done, why is it so hard for him to do what should be most easy for him at this level of the game, control his mouth? control what he says. control -- >> he's doing it perfectly. >> well for a couple of days -- >> -- obamacare -- >> he's literally talking to himself out loud to remind himself, don't attack anybody....

We're not so sure what happens in the gap. can we survive it and defeat these guys. bill describe ad whole lot of horror and death happening until we do. house republicans gather with the new house speaker. they're talking about a whole stuff today. he wants to quote, normally i do not comment on presidential race, this time i make an exception. the people deserve to know we're taking decisive action. he means after what just happened what he called the worst terror attack on u.s. soil since 9/11. donald trump on issue, this is not conservativism. it's not what this country stands for. the vas...