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Jobs and these are going to be good jobs. so i think in the long run, look, a lot of people don't like both parties. they don't like either party. but when they do the vote, they are going to see those swing voters. and say hey, democrats are actually getting things done in office. i think that is really important. >> lindsey graham who served with you, he proposed a nationwide 15-week abortion ban. but by a 2 to 1 margin, americans, not just democrats, americans disapprove on the overturning of roe. what do you think is going on here? >> well, i think that lindsey graham is throwing spaghetti...

And the white house is keenly ware of that. so they're going to to attempt to pivot two things they believe will help americans understand, especially those feeling the pinch right now, how they could be helped with the president's legislation and economic agenda and still hasn't passed, extending the child care credit, and parts of build back better and it is still tied up in congress, they will pivot to try to make that messaging point but let's be frank over the last few months, the white house says the inflation is not transitory and downplayed it at times and now we know from fed chair po...

Feel like they are still kind of fighting the fight of a week ago instead of the messaging point they want to get across. they are going to be moving into this public phase. so process, process, process has been where they're at. but what is going to happen once this process is in public view? we have not seen an argument yet about how this is unfair to the president once they actually do have hearings. >> and important to just always add that not a single person inside this white house or aligned with the president has disputed a single fact as detailed in the whistle-blower complaint or as d...

Line, isn't it, kevin, the president says bolton is hawkish but it doesn't matter because trump makes the decisions anyway. in your years of covering these kinds of actions where do the president's current actions land on whatever scale we're judging by? >> well, you know, he said button is the hawk but others that are advising him are not. the other who is not is general dunford, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the top military adviser to the president, he's the one who wanted to exercise caution with military strikes. you know, i think ambassador hill touched on something, when yo...

>> all right -- >> -- in syria. and there are a variety of questions and yes, it is a black eye on our country. xi in china and putin in russia don't have to worry about problems like this. >> that is because they're not democracies. and that is the point. this isn't the problem. i can't believe the president said that. i can't believe he said the probe is doing very well is something i never thought i would hear him say and can't mean but the idea that there is a problem with russia, do you think he meant to say the problem for him with his relationship with russia, this probe. >> well, no, i...