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Because he needs to keep himself at such a distance from these events. so what democrats and what white house strategists say is that the president will instead go after what he calls the extreme maga agenda, framing republicans as extremists and democrats as looking out for the american people, and american families through this new piece of legislation. >> we will see if that messaging works. kevin liptak, great to see you this morning. thank you. but there is one issue that millions of americans are waiting for president biden to take action on. and that is student debt. an estimated 45 m...

Misplaying here? >> maybe. >> because after our reporting after trump left the meeting then vice president pence said to schumer and pelosi what's your counteroffer and they didn't give one. >> that's right. >> is that what the 800,000 people who are going without paychecks they want them to be so dug in they don't make a counteroffer? >> i think that's so important and that's why finally, the smartly the president and the rest of the white house are trying to turn the discussion and turn the messaging away from wall barrier whatever you call it into border security. because border security as...

This morning to offer another reason. >> he will be the most dynamic 70 something -year-old you've ever met in your entire life. part of my job is to advise him on exercise routines. trump can't walk 18 holes. joe benches 1852. >> we have it obtains exclusive footage of bidens poll regimen and his outreach to younger voters. his brother might be onto something. i feel tremendous, i'm ready to take on the world. >> we will get in the older and we will never die. s >> well, let's see if that messaging works. here to debate the phenomenon i a former arkansas governor who

Important quality that they look for in a candidate is somebody who cares about people like me. so it did work but what are you talking about? >> because it was empathy and fairness and some of these refrans that we heard from democrats. "the washington post" wrote a good analysis. there are few problems democrats are going to run into. first of all, it is totally different turnout models in a mid-term election. looks like the republican electorate is a lot more fired up. polling from democrats shows they are worried their own base isn't going to turn out this coming november. certainly not th...

Think they deserve the time and space and they have their own ideas on how they want to move forward on this. let's see what they come up with. it could be better than what the senate has done so far. >> now that the shutdown is over, the president is signaling that immigration reform is the next big legislative fight. president obama says he wants action this year. the democratic controlled senate passed a comprehensive bill last june, but after a shutdown battle, the republicans and the house, are they going to be able to move on immigration reform. dana perino, co-host of "the five" an pres...