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They're already putting up barriers. we have a two week turn around and then start the investigation. we just want to get to the truth. we won't rest until we do. we have a very specific and broad mandate and we need to make sure that we do our job. >> we'll see what you find. that's going to be the test. have you seen dhss projections of what they think is going to happen in terms of blow on the border? >> i saw the story and the numbers that the new york times had today and in some ways it doesn't completely surprise me in terms of illegal border crossings. once they started the metering pro...

Caravan murdered as they waited to come into the united states because we know about these long lines and this metering process. during the hearing today the secretary denied it makes people go into the desert and go into these dangerous situations, which we know is not the case. >> susan, it's alice in wonderland time. it's the mad hatter's tea party when they're saying something is true when it's not. these witnesses are testifying. of course right now no one is challenging them. >> as a congressman made the point, though, that will change on january 3rd when it will be democrats convening h...